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1922 Otis SOB-bad floor coils

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 Len
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We had an Old SOB with the Micro/drive..vintage 1928..that was some piece of equipment...one continuous chain which ran down 5fls and engaged the freight doors.driven by a Seperate motor and braking system...



   
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(@GreenPants)
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check your main fuses a lot of guys used to put higher amp fuses to "let the smoke out" and find a problem coil. if i remember right 3 amp fuses are spec. better to swap a fuse than replace a melted down controller.



   
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Your right GreenPants someone put 20amp motor fuses (Dual Element)and some coils did burn. The correct fuses for this controller is (3)5amp one-time, as per manufacturer specs, without retiring cam motor in control circuit. At 5 amps the fuses also provide overload protection (125% of rated load) and overcurrent protection. I have experienced the overload protection working properly. Correct fuses protect equipment and save time and money.



   
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 Len
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220v system..Magnet relays used to hang-up from residual.build-up..was a real problem keeping coils for any lenght of time..



   
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(@Philly)
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We have that issue on the old Haughton equipment here in los Angeles



   
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Clean and oil and then check level of switch. If possible adjust coil mounts so the movable core isn't wearing on the inside of the coil. Check for wear on insides of the coil.

Install new springs to kick the contacts off, problems disappear. Install new stationary contacts, especially carbons to add height. The sooner the contacts meet, the more spring you get for the release. But not too soon...

Your last option. You can also install a thin strip of non-magnetic metal (brass)between the cores. This last information comes from 1920's elevator books. Clean switch again.
Make sure the hinges for the movable contacts specs. include washers. One floor switch was sticking and a thin copper washer was added to the hinge to try to align the movable arm contact better (the magnetic forces tends to align the core just fine). The washer had a burr and was causing the sticking. Checked parts list, no washer, had washer removed. The floor coil operates correctly. Clean switch again.



   
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(@christycollett)
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Green Pants, have a question for you. Older Otis wiring diagrams always start with a number. For instance 5-1S7***** what does the first number mean?

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no clue christy those are about 60 years before my time.



   
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Sheet #GS27-4012, date June 3, 1955. GS27- note is -ARR for (2) 68594?? cam devices. Front & Rear ... Rectifier Arranged.
The GS27 in this case refers to a Otis mod of AC controller with a DC overlay for a new retiring cam motor and cam motor- ?automatic gate closer? Also changed was a direct AC brake for DC brake and a DC brake control panel was added. Original Sheet #4012, date July 19, 1920.

Sheet #GS4-3329F, date April 16, 1954 (condensed? wiring diagram). GS4- note- Added Potential Switch.
The expanded wiring diagram GS4-3329F starts #3329D, date March ?, 1917,then #3329E March 26, 1917, then #3329F May 10, 1917. Ends #GS4-3329F, date April 16, 1954. Assume #3329 is the original sheet #.
As far as your question about the later number designations, Christy Collett, I don't know but started at least by 8-CIF6834A, date start 1,24,1949. final? Jan 16, 1953.



   
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(@PATRCIK)
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If you ever need parts for these old units check out Master Elevator Components they have a lot of parts for the 1940's and before.

www.masterelevator.net



   
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