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(@ozliftly)
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Simplest solution use a camera located on the car or in the shaft, with small screen in the controller,



   
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I've seen some jobs where the Inspector required a camera located in the hoistway showing the governor sheave. IMO, you need to be able to see the drive sheave also.



   
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At first thanks for the answers that you gave me.At second the problem is.I have an elevator without machine room.T motor is not PM so i dont have encoder.The tuv austria ask for a remote control to do the resque movement manualy[opening the brake only at this case] with an external power i used ups 2000VA.I dont have direct access with the control panel the motor or the shaft the minimum distance is 5 meters and also this movement will be act in power failure.So i was thinking something like magnetic sensors in the shaft they they will drive relays and i will have light indicators in the portable rescue unit direction up or down so i am looking a simple way with minimum power requirements.



   
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 Vic
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Vaggelis,
Welcome!
I love engineering challenges! I love designing, thinking, researching, creating, developing, etc. It's great fun.

However, in the USA, if you personally modify a UL rated controller, (or even add anything to it), this opens up a "can of worms", and exposes yourself to liability in a lawsuit, if someone were to ever get hurt. The reason for the failure doesn't even have to be related to what work you did! The plaintiff's lawyer only has to raise doubt in the mind of the jury, to be awarded a judgement, and get a big settlement. I'm not sure about the legal climate in �sterreich, but that's the way things are here. If we want the equipment modified, we have to go through the original equipment manufacturer, and have them perform the engineering. Even if they do exactly the same circuit design that we would do, it has to be done through them to maintain the UL rating, and protect ourselves from liability.

Therefore, when you talk to anyone from the USA about such issues, you will receive less than enthusiastic responses. I just wanted you to know why that is the case.

I am not familir with STHAL equipment at all. Is the hoist motor a 3 phase ac motor? Does it produce any voltage when it's being rotated or overhauled by a load, such as during empty car up? If so, then you could hang a phase monitor on the motor leads.

Like this-
http://www.transcat.com/PDF/KnoppK3.pdf

Or this-
http://www.transcat.com/PDF/KnoppK3.pdf

Check with Sthal, check with your insurance company, check with a lawyer-

But above all, be safe!

Last edited by Vic; 02/11/13 10:38 PM.


   
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VIC thanks for your help.



   
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And a correction is tuv greece



   
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