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(@zammy)
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Hello

Is there a software or website for user manuals for lifts?

I mean that if I go to fix KONE, OTIS, THYSSEN, etc elevators and I can see error code or errorled on the control board...I could check the code or led meaning online in few seconds.

Like they have these sites and tools for cars...OBD codes http://www.obd-codes.com/



   
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(@Elev^te79)
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No, because when someone gets killed they look at who reset the fault. Better off getting an elevator company, people's life's are at stake.



   
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(@lifer65)
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There are no specific web sites that will supply you with this info for everything. All of the companies have proprietary info for the. Out part. If you are looking to find a specific error code for a specific problem I'm sure someone can help,you here..liability insurance for elevators is very high for a reason. Resetting an error code is not going to kill someone but you should have specific elevator experience if you work on them because if someone gets hurt you will have liability on your hands...understanding elevator basics can get you out of many problems and tenacity will get you a bit further. Having the basic fundamentally for elevator,troubleshooting and good friends will get you through....



   
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(@Monte Ball)
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zammy
you need to give the specific fault for that specific elevator and someone will try to help you. But Elev te 79 has it right, resetting a fault that you don't really understand can cause you some problems and there could be liability involved.



   
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(@Elev8ed1)
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That's scary!



   
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(@zammy)
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Well

I do not understand. Would it not be better to know the error code You are dealing with rather not knowing it ? Without knowing it You just reset the system not really knowing what was wrong in it?

What is the difference in liability between cars and lifts? Is it not allways a responsibility of company making the repairs?



   
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(@zammy)
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And

I have to be more clear. My idea was that is there this kind of site for elevator professionals?

I do understand that repairs has to be allways be made by professionals.



   
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 jkh
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Zammy,
As it has been explain already.

THERE IS NO SUCH SITE FOR ELEVATOR ERROR CODES.

Error codes are generally proprietary information that each manufacturer designates to each of their models. Many different models = many different codes!

Now let me try and explain the difference of liability from cars to elevators. The person who owns the car usually is the operator of the car. The people who use elevators expect the owner to maintain their safety while using thier elevator. If you are resetting the system, then you are not maintaining it safely. If someone is injured using your elevator, and you have a history of just resetting the elevator system, you are negligent and liable...

Let me ask are you the owner of the elevators?



   
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 jkh
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Zammy,
I meant to include this as well. If Someone were to give you help and guidance in repairing an elevator. And someone was hurt after you tried to fix it yourself. Not only are you liable but so is that person.

I try keep this in mind while I am posting!



   
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(@zammy)
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First
There is no such thing as propriety information. All the information has to handed ower if asked by the lift owner.

So this means that if this information is somewhere to be found and is correct as in the original manual You can not be responsible of any misstakes made at site.

If I tell my friend there is gun in My house and he goes and shoots somebody with this gun am I responsible for murder?



   
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 koss
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It's called copyright...easiest way to say it,,,someone owns it,,you have to pay to get it!



   
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(@zammy)
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Not possible that this kind of information is under copyright.

That would be agains the free competition policy. At least in europe there is a law that restrict any company policy that is retricting free competition in the industry.

You can read more and be supriced 🙂

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/competition/index_en.htm



   
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 koss
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But it is still,copyright owned,,thst was a case years back of the the big four doing a cartel,,company owned things are copyright and can't be published anywhere without permission,,,includes,codes,as,well,,even if you are in usa,,still copyright belongs to whomever owns it!



   
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(@zammy)
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You can write copyrite to any paper but it doeas not mean it IS copyright.

Big four OTIS, KONE, SCHINDLER and THYSSEN are actually continuing the cartel IF they claim this kind of information is under copyright and nobody else is permitted to publish this kind of information.

Nobody can not not own this kind of information!!! Of course they can say itοΏ½s copyright but in real life it is not.



   
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(@zammy)
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If would publish error codes from OTIS manual to internet You really think they would sue me?

Maybe I should test this 🙂



   
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