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(@rollaway-up)
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Well my hopes of the interface board failed miserably today. Looks like upon further investigation my power supply is outputting 12v and 12v instead of 12v and 30v. I'm confident this will solve my problem but I had another suggestion of the tone board too, any thoughts?



   
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(@Scott Davidson)
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tone board could be bad, sounds like you took out the whole lot, what a pain. good luck



   
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Replaced the power supply and the tone board and still no success. On the old processor board there are external jumpers made of wire that join certain chips and one goes from a test point to a resistor, has anyone had to put these on the new board? World electronica confirmed i have the proper processor, when i tried to put the old one back in it smoked up, so now im back to the new processor and running on independant service.

All hall calls lit, not responding to any or cancellong any. Drained the cap and removed and replaced all chips...

Any ideas?



   
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I had a blown fuse on the board in the machine room that made the hall calls and fire service do strange things when you tried to register a call.

Are you sure that all of the pins on the chips are inserted fully into the sockets, and that the indentation on the top of the chips is matching the indentation on the sockets (correct orientation)?



   
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what about the RV input, there is a little small miniature relay in the cop if i remember correctly. if you have the prints, i believe it feeds the hall board. i seem to remember about 20 years ago having this relay go bad and having some kind of hall call problem. it was a small black miniature relay, you would hardly notice it . worth a shot



   
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I found the rv input relay, yes very hard to notice velcro'd deep in the cop. It has 3 teeminals going in one side, one wire coming out the opposite end. It has a diode soldered on the two outer terminals (which id guess is the coil) and the inner wire had 24v. Under no circumstances was power present at the coil to energize it.

At the hall button interface in the ducting I have 24vdc on the signal wires (twisted pair) from the processor, removing that input from the hall board causes the hallbutton lights to go out, interesting. Apparently this twisted pair should only carry tones (900mhz, 910mhz, etc.) to the tone board to be converted into hall calls, curious as to why it has 24vdc on it?

Makes me think this is a processor issue still.

Upon closer inspection my old processor has external jumpers in a few different places not present on the new board. Is it common for otis to make such changes job specific?

Ill attach pictures for reference.

Also found out i only have generic lrv prints, my LRS is considerably different. Lovely.



   
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Yellow Jumper near top of board

Blue Jumpers on resistors

Blue Jumpers on Chip

Processor

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Those jumpers do not look normal and are probably there to compensate for other issues. I've seen repair facilities put them on the backside of the board, but not like that.

Unitec also will not sell you certain pages of the schematic specific to your job, you have to buy all 12-15 pages at $80 per page.

Have you tried to swap out the hall button interface board?



   
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I looked at a few different prints, RV should be picked up. it comes from terminal 90 and 90 gets 24 volts as long as the 24 volt regulator on the relay board is good.

one of my prints shows RV n/0 contact feeding the hall interface board. it supplied 24 volts to what looks like a filter of some kind on the hall board. do you have any wiring diagram numbers on the controller, maybe i can get something close. i would really dig into the rv thing once again. or you can try just jumping out the n/o contact, as that would accomplish the same thing.



   
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I looked at a few different prints, RV should be picked up. it comes from terminal 90 and 90 gets 24 volts as long as the 24 volt regulator on the relay board is good.

one of my prints shows RV n/0 contact feeding the hall interface board. it supplied 24 volts to what looks like a filter of some kind on the hall board. do you have any wiring diagram numbers on the controller, maybe i can get something close. i would really dig into the rv thing once again. or you can try just jumping out the n/o contact, as that would accomplish the same thing. I'm almost sure, this has something to do with your problem can't see why they would put that little relay there if it was not being used. that is the rv relay, i remember the velcro. could not believe it when i found it.



   
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