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(@Jblack83)
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Having an issue with this unit. Keeps going down every other day. So far has gone down 3 times since 11/25/20. Faults have been ULFB. SHD.
DMFB. SHD.
UMFB SHD.
All of them reset easily and it runs after. Any ideas what I should be looking to or for for the possible issue here? My first impression is these are valve coil/valve related issues. But I have taken apart and cleaned the screens and stem seats. No change in observable operation. Any thoughts anyone?



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Anyone?



   
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(@Indirtwetrust)
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It means the valve output was turned on but the feedback input didn’t see the voltage or the feedback input saw a voltage when the valve output was not turned on. For it to happen with 3 of the 4 valves is weird. Only thing in common with all the valves is the safety string. Maybe a flakey contact in there somewhere or a loose connection.



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Maddening... Where do I look to fix this then? Replace valve coils? Replace selector board for possibly sending erroneous signals?



   
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 M2RE
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Is the car sinking, releveling?



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Not routinely. It did do a dance when the oil was cold one time, settled and releveled and shot through and leveled down. Only saw that once with cold oil and it didn't shut it down.



   
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 M2RE
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Make sure to isolate hydraulic leaks, via doing a sit test. I don’t know but maybe its going down mechanically and causing the lift to fault out.



   
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(@Jblack83)
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According to a 418 page manual I read there are 2 possibilities for this fault. 1. Directional limit tripped while the valve coil is picked/energized. 2. Mother board component u78 is bad and generating false signal.. So we have gone through all the HW switches and adjusted the UP final further away from the landing by 1/2" incase the unit it intermittently leveling through or shooting through the floor.. We will see how it goes.



   
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(@Indirtwetrust)
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The problem with that is you have had both up and down valve faults so 1 directional limit switch can’t account for all of your faults. I suspect the board.



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Yeah... That was my concern too. But to rule it out we adjusted it any way. But it's down again today. So not sure how we are gonna proceed now..



   
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(@Jblack83)
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The valve seems pretty solid. Not releveling a lot. But these faults all say Valve feedback.. Scratching my head on this one..



   
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(@Jblack83)
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I guess we will try replacing the selector board and rule that out. Possible false signals being generated by the selector..



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Replaced selector board. And it was down again today. So today we replaced the stems/seats on the maxton valve to rule out that section of the valve at least... We will see tomorrow.



   
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(@Jblack83)
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It appears that replacing the stems and seats on the maxton valve has repaired the issue. Original issue being a SHD status with one of the following faults. ULFB UMFB DMFB DLFB.



   
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(@Jblack83)
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Well it worked for a few days. Now its putting up a RECF. Any one else have any ideas?



   
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