The '51 is back in service and runs very good, it is in a residence, 3 stop. I have been able to study this one and compare to the other. Seems the transformer and rectifier have been updated.
1951 type:10N1P wire diagram: 2S6880A Machine Type: 35ES
The '57 is very similar but several more relay contactors, Just 2 stop. This one is not running yet, but its getting close. Original everything except maybe a capacitor on the back.
1957 type:10N1T wire diagram:13-1S6878 A Machine type:49ES
The good
-The phase monitor engages. transformer output is at 100v on each pole, the rectifier had output of 135v DC, Door Open and Door Close contacts work when manually pushed
Not good
-"C" contact wont make, but it has DC- 60, 60 , 130 across the bottom of the contactor. Even if I manually engage the "C" contactor nothing else reacts.
-The unit is between floors at the moment.
At a point of needing some type of wiring Diagrams or any input from the old school Techs
pictures coming..
rectifier output is good.
door contactors work manually.
The last point of power is at the bottom of the 3 pole C contactor. Honestly I'm not sure if that should be AC or DC . I get readings of both. If its AC then the third leg is down at the contactor .
Parts Im having trouble with is the Overload dashpot relay N301. They are in series with each other. Relay labeled #1 tripped when swapped in the controller. Not the best idea but I jumped it out and the unit took a call.
The door circuit isn't working because "NT- hall timer sw." wont pick . Receives 135v DC at the coil, while getting voltage I manually engage it and the door circuit works fine.
ultimately I need relay dashpot oil ( the #1 overload was lower on oil than the #2.) or a new N301
and a replacement coil for NT switch
Then some tuning. The last certificate is from '97. The owner wants this inspected. 😁
Post a picture I would be curious to see it.
Unfortunatley you may need to upgrade( did you check unitec), or rebuild it.
Im curious how mechanics set up a temp run button back in the day?
any substitute with todays oils that would be equivalent to 50's dash pot oil?